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Audio Books not Playing in proper order.

Posted: 19:39 03 Jun 07 #1
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First off! I play mostly audio books [not from audible] . It is hard to get the proper order organized. I''ve tried putting separate folders in the music folder with the book title inside as Tex recommeded but they don''t play in the proper order. I get most of my Audio books from file sharing programs and most say something like 01-24, 02-24 ect, [where 24 means 24 chapters ect.] I look at the chapters and they look alike but I have not done much with tagging. Should I have a tag editor
and if so what would you recommend? Once I get a tag editor what are things one should look for? Thanks for any help.
Posted: 19:42 03 Jun 07 #2
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I forgot to say that I have the Sansa m240 with the 3. firmware and everthing works just fine except what was mentioned above. Tried to upgrade but it doesn''t
do it.
Posted: 17:50 12 Jun 07 #3
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I think I may have solved this problem, although I''m not pleased to have to go to such extremes to get files to play in the order I designate. The way I did it, was to arrange the files in folders in the order I want them to play, such as make a folder: 01_Victory At Sea. I place the files inside that folder and number them such as: 01_The Song of the High Seas, and so on. I then open each music file in Winamp, click File, View file info. The tag editor will then appear, and I fill in the blanks in the ID3v1 Tag as I desire. I don''t use the ID3v2 Tag, and if it is checked I uncheck it. The important thing is the Track #''s. They must be numbered sequentially to play in the proper order, and in the next folder the Track # must be the next one in sequence from the last one in the previous folder. However, after doing all this, I learned that they would not play in the proper order when I dragged and dropped the folders into the Sansa m240, and had to "Sync" them onto the device with Windows Media Player 11. Further complicating the situation was that my Music Library on the Media Player was unintelligible to me, showing a lot of folders, but many of them "Unknown" although they were named on my hard drive. Also, it doesn''t seem to be possible to specify which music folders you include in your Music Library, the Media Player seems to automatically include them all. However, I learned through trial and error that I could drag and drop the folders onto the Playlist of the Media Player directly from the folders on my hard drive rather than the Music Library, so that''s what I did and then synced them to the Sansa after determining that they were in the proper order. It''s a hassle, but that was the only way I could get this device to play the files in the order I wanted. I do miss my old Sandisk player where I could just number my folders and files, drag and drop them onto it and it would play the files in the proper order. I dropped it one too many times, though, and it finally quit on me and I had to replace it with this one. I searched for a replacement unit with the same capability and if one exists I haven''t found it. Hope this helps.
Posted: 04:45 15 Jun 07 #4
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Thanks for the feedback CapnBilly. I just got back here and saw your message and will try to copy your results. Sounds like alot of hoops to jump through for what should be a basic process ,but so be it. Thanks again
Posted: 20:32 27 Jun 07 #5
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Addendum: In the intervening time between my last post and now, I have had the following experiences. After loading the player with the procedure I described it played about 65 tracks in the proper order, but during one of my fitness walks while fiddling around with it I inadvertently went into the menu, and when it resumed playing the tracks were all jumbled up again. I was unable to correct this, so I hooked the player up to the computer, deleted everything and reloaded the compilation, which I still had. They then began playing in order and continued so until I went into the menu again, at which time the same problem occurred. However, I was able to get them back into order by hitting the "Playlist" mode, at which time the message "No Playlist" appeared, but then when I went back to the play mode they were back in order.

I have seen comments about the low price of this player, but price is not my primary object, functionality is. My previous 1 GB SanDisk player cost me $163, and I would gladly pay the same or more for a player by any manufacturer that will simply play tracks in the order I prescribe without the hassles and hoops this one requires. If anyone here could recommend one I would be glad to know about it.

And I would welcome a comment by any of the SanDisk Reps that I have seen in these pages on the subject of getting this player to reliably play tracks in a prearranged order. I listen during my morning fitness walks, and don't want to be distracted by fiddling around with a player so that I can concentrate on traffic, dogs, etc.

Thanks!

Posted: 15:50 07 Jul 07 #6
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Ok , I got your post and am sorry to hear that the problems still persist. The only way that I can get my books to play properly is to only load one book at a time and in most cases it will play in proper order. Sometimes they are out of sync like track one is really track two and I must adjust ect.  I run into problems when I load more than one book so I keep it simple. I do like the Last song played memory of the player which works really well as long as one does nothing else to the player except turn it on and let it find where you left off. But of coarse if you hook it up to the computer throught the cable then you loose that spot.  Whoever egineered this system made a mess of it.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted: 14:00 08 Jul 07 #7
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I am struck by how hard it is to find information on the simple matter of arranging files to play in a prearranged order for any player. I have checked numerous reviews for various players, both pro and user, and nobody seems to mention this. Could this issue be that unimportant to reviewers and users alike? It seems to me that somebody else would want to be able to do this, or does nobody care in what order their music files play? Anyway, until I find a better option, I have managed to get this one to do that after a fashion, so long as I stay away from the Menu button and don't connect it to the computer before I'm ready to reload it. You're right, Mickey (Mouse) had his head somewhere else when he designed this unit.
Posted: 16:12 15 Jul 07 #8
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yes , thats right Capnbilly. Mickey has not got his stuff together at all. I really don't play much music. I mostly use it for Audio books and the feature of returning to the same spot in the book where I left off  is invaluable. The more stuff one tries to put into the player the less reliable it becomes . I keep it simple buy puting just one book at a time into the player and seem to have less problems this way but it sort of defeats the purpose of having a 1 gig player.

I think reviewers probably get much to politcal when doing reviews. It does amaze me though how many reviewers miss details that are of the utmost importance and keep us in the dark over some well documented issues that certains players are plagued with.

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